I’ve been thinking about your post, and the various points you raise, in particular when you say ‘If the person who pays your wages tells you to do something, then you either do it or you leave. Simple’.
See, I disagree with that, because that belief fosters bullying within the workplace and there are plenty of examples in corporate Ireland, including RTE, to back that up. Any progression from that logic would have you leading slaves to a slaughterhouse, using the I’m only doing my job’ excuse.
Mr. Enoch Burke was faced with the same decision that a lot of people face – to be a person of principal or to ‘go along to get along’ = allow himself be bullied, and in his case, into a mid-stream change of ethos by the school. The Wilson school announces itself to have a Christian ethos then changes its mind in the most fundamental way, and without consultation, because of a trend that may or not last into next year. Already in America, at least two teachers have been applauded, re-instated and recompensed for doing exactly what Mr. Enoch Burke has done. And there are law suits pending against one of the top surgeons who has been happy to mutilate children (see substack, The Glinner man, War on Women, for starters – and you’ll have to check the back catalogue - and there is plenty of more such evidence emerging)
There is no scientific or biological consensus on this issue of transgender ideology, multiple pronouns or new, expected social behaviours. Neither has there ever been any national discussion. Our entire nation, in fact, has been bullied into this and I repeat – there has never been any national discussion.
Mr. Enoch Burke highlighted this issue when he made his stand. The Wilson school didn’t want the public to know about what was going on behind the scenes. Instead of using the opportunity to get a national discussion going, the legal profession got involved. And the spectacle began, courtesy of main stream media.
Going back to the beginning of the early law proceedings posts, the spectre of alleged malpractice by the courts reared its head, when Mr. Burke’s evidence was not allowed by the judge. Further bullying of the Burkes became clear when any time they were in court, there was an armed presence (on at least one occasion), the prison wagon already in place, waiting for him, the times and court-rooms of their hearing were constantly being changed, and legal representation was allegedly denied fair hearing.
You talk about the law as though you expect the people who practice law in this country to be above reproach. What if they are not? That’s a serious question. What if? (please look up one of our top barristers, Una McGurk, on her experiences of ‘law’ in this country when she asked a few legal questions in the understanding that we were in fact, living in a democracy). And there are more people like her dotted around our country. Equally, there is historic evidence of legal people ‘going astray’ over the years. What if, then?
The subsequent legal proceedings, which mainstream media focus on, are all designed to distract from the main issue – There has never been a national discussion about any aspect of transgenderism/multiple pronouns/new expected societal behaviours. Unless, of course, you got the memo and its just me that didn’t.
And then there’s the example for the children: An educator is someone who encourages debate and discussion. An indoctrinator does the opposite.
The messages the ‘teachers’ are currently displaying to our children right now – without any forum or context - include
You can get any teacher fired, they’re all wimps allowing themselves to be bullied.
The teachers are all afraid to speak up so we can do what we like in the classroom.
There are no real adults giving constructive guidance, they’re all just saying ‘do whatever you like’
People of principle will be punished
Different points of view will be ridiculed and the people isolated
Keep your mouth shut
Don’t think for yourself
Through their various situations, Mr Enoch Burke and his family have given all of us a number of gifts
- an opportunity to look at ourselves, who we are, and what we stand for, on a personal as well as a national level.
- the time, to shine spotlights on a number of situations that the powers didn’t ever want us to know about.
- they have highlighted corruption, hypocrisy and bullying-behind-closed-doors; also on a personal as well as a national level
And yet another gift, that of conscious choice, along the way. Each to their own, as supported by the Constitution of our nation, as it were.
Politicians and ‘religious’ people are squirming at the very mention of Mr. Enoch Burke’s name and hide behind some pre-prepared word salad to obscure the truth of their own mediocrity, mean-spirited non-values, and cowardice. Or, there response is to look fixedly away, looking like their brains are freezing.
Given a choice between wanting to be in the presence of people of clear and transparent principle – whether I agree with them or not - versus people whose behaviour suggests they have hidden agendas, I know where my choice lies. My vote goes to Mr. Enoch Burke, to all the Burkes, in fact. They are entitled to their beliefs and without the biased interference of main stream media, all of us might have been given the opportunity to hear all aspects of this situation, instead of the theatre we’ve been subjected to. And, we might even have had an opportunity to have a national discussion.
If you want to be flippant about the way that man was treated Go ahead but hear this. Your comment is an eye opener to thought process of a mindless, heartless state minion. You do not value the rights guaranteed in the constitution nor do you value a sane, mature society. If you agree with happened to Enoch Burke you are the one that needs to grow up. Locking up people you don’t agree with is the most immature and tyrannical thing a person can do.
The court order was illegitimate. No evidence of any wrongdoing was provided against him. He had not been fired. He was still a teacher at that school when the order to stay away was issued. That judge is a disgrace and so is anyone holding that sham of a court order as legitimate in any regard.
Such a shame that people continue to see Enoch Burke in this manner. People like ‘Carol’ will be judged harshly in times to come and the children of today who are being harmed, some as young as three years old, being sent to England for hormone treatment! Will look back at Enoch Burke as a shining beacon in a dismal education system that encouraged this damage to such very young children. As we know the child in questions own parents didn’t know it was their child being discussed as they watched the story unfold on tv.
Those of us who understand what Enoch stands for will be fighting for his truth every inch of the way. Let us not allow corruption and laws that go against our constitutional rights and demands force another innocent person to be put into jail because people don’t understand the forceful programming of our children behind it. And there is, let us be very clear about this! Innocent children are being invited into a world of sexuality when they are normally far too young to deal with that. The junior school corriculum in cpse class is simply horrific. To teach these children about masturbation and worse is unacceptable to parents and yet people seem happy to look the other way. People are reporting hearing language from very young children that leaves them completely stunned, only to find that they have learned it at school, from their teacher!
Move forward to secondary school and we have 12 year olds being taught how to prepare their bodies for anal sex, how to give ‘blow jobs’, and how all in easy childish language. The library has a rainbow section in the children’s area that can be taken out easily by kids that has ALL the above instructions AND how to set up a profile on an adult over 18’s gay dating site! In a children’s book about coming out as gay!!
Surely that’s grooming! Stamped and approved by Irish schools and govt as it’s on the recommended reading list in the schools programme!
One of the very few teachers making a huge stand, (I can think of one other, who resigned over the CSPE programme that she used to teach and I believe design, she did a video recently with Jana Londren, ) is Enoch Burke!
He was willing to lose his career rather than let his pupils down and just take a pay cheque.
He couldn’t just look the other way like other teachers have felt they must do. The system has just felt too big for most of them.
Our education system is completely destroying our children at present, so many parents are taking the unenviable route of homeschooling, which is so hard on both the parents and the children. The loss of friendships for the children is immeasurable and the work the parents even more so. People, friends of mine have had to make the difficult choice to move country, to find a place with better educational opportunities than Ireland, that didn’t have the same sexualisation of children to bring up their children.
And yet Enoch stood strong, no matter what jibes were thrown at him, when people hadn’t taken the time to research what was happening in Irish junior and secondary schools, the curriculums, the agenda’s being waged at our young and at their most vulnerable stages, and behind their parents and guardians backs! Often with confidentiality agreements being signed in the classroom!
Enoch is no criminal, the criminals I see here are in govt, school boards, and library services etc etc. All of those people mentioned above should have their day in court for how they have damaged innocent children.
The one person I see who is innocent of any crime is Enoch Burke, and I do believe he will go down in history like our forefathers of 1916
There was a spelling mistake in the email address in the first draft. Make sure you use
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I have updated the article with the template that the Mayo Association of Dublin have provided to us.
Done Stephen thank you. I suggest people say that he does not know about the nomination and he can attend. His address is Castlebar Co Mayo
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Hi Carol,
I’ve been thinking about your post, and the various points you raise, in particular when you say ‘If the person who pays your wages tells you to do something, then you either do it or you leave. Simple’.
See, I disagree with that, because that belief fosters bullying within the workplace and there are plenty of examples in corporate Ireland, including RTE, to back that up. Any progression from that logic would have you leading slaves to a slaughterhouse, using the I’m only doing my job’ excuse.
Mr. Enoch Burke was faced with the same decision that a lot of people face – to be a person of principal or to ‘go along to get along’ = allow himself be bullied, and in his case, into a mid-stream change of ethos by the school. The Wilson school announces itself to have a Christian ethos then changes its mind in the most fundamental way, and without consultation, because of a trend that may or not last into next year. Already in America, at least two teachers have been applauded, re-instated and recompensed for doing exactly what Mr. Enoch Burke has done. And there are law suits pending against one of the top surgeons who has been happy to mutilate children (see substack, The Glinner man, War on Women, for starters – and you’ll have to check the back catalogue - and there is plenty of more such evidence emerging)
There is no scientific or biological consensus on this issue of transgender ideology, multiple pronouns or new, expected social behaviours. Neither has there ever been any national discussion. Our entire nation, in fact, has been bullied into this and I repeat – there has never been any national discussion.
Mr. Enoch Burke highlighted this issue when he made his stand. The Wilson school didn’t want the public to know about what was going on behind the scenes. Instead of using the opportunity to get a national discussion going, the legal profession got involved. And the spectacle began, courtesy of main stream media.
Going back to the beginning of the early law proceedings posts, the spectre of alleged malpractice by the courts reared its head, when Mr. Burke’s evidence was not allowed by the judge. Further bullying of the Burkes became clear when any time they were in court, there was an armed presence (on at least one occasion), the prison wagon already in place, waiting for him, the times and court-rooms of their hearing were constantly being changed, and legal representation was allegedly denied fair hearing.
You talk about the law as though you expect the people who practice law in this country to be above reproach. What if they are not? That’s a serious question. What if? (please look up one of our top barristers, Una McGurk, on her experiences of ‘law’ in this country when she asked a few legal questions in the understanding that we were in fact, living in a democracy). And there are more people like her dotted around our country. Equally, there is historic evidence of legal people ‘going astray’ over the years. What if, then?
The subsequent legal proceedings, which mainstream media focus on, are all designed to distract from the main issue – There has never been a national discussion about any aspect of transgenderism/multiple pronouns/new expected societal behaviours. Unless, of course, you got the memo and its just me that didn’t.
And then there’s the example for the children: An educator is someone who encourages debate and discussion. An indoctrinator does the opposite.
The messages the ‘teachers’ are currently displaying to our children right now – without any forum or context - include
You can get any teacher fired, they’re all wimps allowing themselves to be bullied.
The teachers are all afraid to speak up so we can do what we like in the classroom.
There are no real adults giving constructive guidance, they’re all just saying ‘do whatever you like’
People of principle will be punished
Different points of view will be ridiculed and the people isolated
Keep your mouth shut
Don’t think for yourself
Through their various situations, Mr Enoch Burke and his family have given all of us a number of gifts
- an opportunity to look at ourselves, who we are, and what we stand for, on a personal as well as a national level.
- the time, to shine spotlights on a number of situations that the powers didn’t ever want us to know about.
- they have highlighted corruption, hypocrisy and bullying-behind-closed-doors; also on a personal as well as a national level
And yet another gift, that of conscious choice, along the way. Each to their own, as supported by the Constitution of our nation, as it were.
Politicians and ‘religious’ people are squirming at the very mention of Mr. Enoch Burke’s name and hide behind some pre-prepared word salad to obscure the truth of their own mediocrity, mean-spirited non-values, and cowardice. Or, there response is to look fixedly away, looking like their brains are freezing.
Given a choice between wanting to be in the presence of people of clear and transparent principle – whether I agree with them or not - versus people whose behaviour suggests they have hidden agendas, I know where my choice lies. My vote goes to Mr. Enoch Burke, to all the Burkes, in fact. They are entitled to their beliefs and without the biased interference of main stream media, all of us might have been given the opportunity to hear all aspects of this situation, instead of the theatre we’ve been subjected to. And, we might even have had an opportunity to have a national discussion.
and done!
One correction to my post - instead of War on Women, its The Glinner Update - The Good News Update
https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2024/09/02/enoch-burke-jailed-for-third-time-over-refusal-to-stay-away-from-wilsons-hospital-school/
If you want to be flippant about the way that man was treated Go ahead but hear this. Your comment is an eye opener to thought process of a mindless, heartless state minion. You do not value the rights guaranteed in the constitution nor do you value a sane, mature society. If you agree with happened to Enoch Burke you are the one that needs to grow up. Locking up people you don’t agree with is the most immature and tyrannical thing a person can do.
The court order was illegitimate. No evidence of any wrongdoing was provided against him. He had not been fired. He was still a teacher at that school when the order to stay away was issued. That judge is a disgrace and so is anyone holding that sham of a court order as legitimate in any regard.
Such a shame that people continue to see Enoch Burke in this manner. People like ‘Carol’ will be judged harshly in times to come and the children of today who are being harmed, some as young as three years old, being sent to England for hormone treatment! Will look back at Enoch Burke as a shining beacon in a dismal education system that encouraged this damage to such very young children. As we know the child in questions own parents didn’t know it was their child being discussed as they watched the story unfold on tv.
Those of us who understand what Enoch stands for will be fighting for his truth every inch of the way. Let us not allow corruption and laws that go against our constitutional rights and demands force another innocent person to be put into jail because people don’t understand the forceful programming of our children behind it. And there is, let us be very clear about this! Innocent children are being invited into a world of sexuality when they are normally far too young to deal with that. The junior school corriculum in cpse class is simply horrific. To teach these children about masturbation and worse is unacceptable to parents and yet people seem happy to look the other way. People are reporting hearing language from very young children that leaves them completely stunned, only to find that they have learned it at school, from their teacher!
Move forward to secondary school and we have 12 year olds being taught how to prepare their bodies for anal sex, how to give ‘blow jobs’, and how all in easy childish language. The library has a rainbow section in the children’s area that can be taken out easily by kids that has ALL the above instructions AND how to set up a profile on an adult over 18’s gay dating site! In a children’s book about coming out as gay!!
Surely that’s grooming! Stamped and approved by Irish schools and govt as it’s on the recommended reading list in the schools programme!
One of the very few teachers making a huge stand, (I can think of one other, who resigned over the CSPE programme that she used to teach and I believe design, she did a video recently with Jana Londren, ) is Enoch Burke!
He was willing to lose his career rather than let his pupils down and just take a pay cheque.
He couldn’t just look the other way like other teachers have felt they must do. The system has just felt too big for most of them.
Our education system is completely destroying our children at present, so many parents are taking the unenviable route of homeschooling, which is so hard on both the parents and the children. The loss of friendships for the children is immeasurable and the work the parents even more so. People, friends of mine have had to make the difficult choice to move country, to find a place with better educational opportunities than Ireland, that didn’t have the same sexualisation of children to bring up their children.
And yet Enoch stood strong, no matter what jibes were thrown at him, when people hadn’t taken the time to research what was happening in Irish junior and secondary schools, the curriculums, the agenda’s being waged at our young and at their most vulnerable stages, and behind their parents and guardians backs! Often with confidentiality agreements being signed in the classroom!
Enoch is no criminal, the criminals I see here are in govt, school boards, and library services etc etc. All of those people mentioned above should have their day in court for how they have damaged innocent children.
The one person I see who is innocent of any crime is Enoch Burke, and I do believe he will go down in history like our forefathers of 1916