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Make of this opinion what you will, Eisreachtach1916.

Having just read your comment, my immediate reaction is ‘See, this is why people don’t speak Irish anymore’. Criticism accompanied by put-downs and nothing positive offered.

I speak the bit of Irish I do because around 30years ago the Gaelinn speakers I worked with for about 3 months, kept telling me to ‘give it a go’ and not to worry about getting it wrong. I was a long time out of school at the time but that was the first time I spoke Irish. And I was terrified at first. They were the first fluent speakers who were realistic in their approach and I am very grateful to them.

I might have kept it up more/started learning proper grammar if I’d stayed in the same place for longer than a couple of years at a time, but I ended up moving around a lot so was unable to build up any Irish-speaking group of friends.

I have self-confidence speaking now in my faltering Irish because of that work I did and I refuse to apologise for trying, even when I get it wrong. Those Irish speakers helped me, corrected me and encouraged me. They never, ever said ‘that’s wrong, you must do/say...’ Instead, they said things like ‘try using this or that phrase, or what do you think of this word to describe....?’ And every single one of them made positive suggestions for further knowledge in an encouraging way.

Criticising anyone who is doing their bit to encourage others is exactly why Irish people are afraid to speak their native language. There is a time and a place, certainly, for getting things exactly right and I imagine that, for those who are fluent in the spoken and written language, attempts by fledgling speakers might feel like nails on chalkboards, but criticism without any help is actively useless and worse, smothers and stifles. Which, is, by the way, exactly what conquerors want.

When I read your comment to Stephen Delaney here, it reminded me of how Donal Lunny was rejected by some traditional musicians because the bazooki wasn’t a traditional instrument. Ditto Gerry O’Connor and his banjo. And I’m sure the same people would be horrified by The Bridies and their version of the ‘4 and 9’, not to mention the various versions of Óró, sé do bheatha 'bhaile currently doing the rounds.

Those changes to our music have kept the music alive. Stagnation leads to death.

The same applies to the language. Every effort is worth encouraging, especially street-efforts, where real life happens, but where spelling and grammar and mispronunciations occur. Languages that don’t evolve on the street level disappear. Look at what’s happened to other languages – the words that no longer exist in dictionaries.

Stephen Delaney wrote an entire article. Your comments focus on only one thing and offer nothing, which begs the question – what exactly are you trying to achieve here? If you were trying to be helpful then you’d say something like ‘next time you write the word Aontu, put a fada on it’ or something like that. You might even say ‘an mhiste leat fada a chur ar an focal ‘Aontu’ led’thol mar.....’

I understood Stephen’s article. I genuinely don’t understand your point unless that point is to belittle or discourage. I certainly got that point, so fair play to you if that was your intention.

The best, and real communicators are those that can make their meaning understood irrespective of grammar or spelling or pronunciation. Scholars write what the people are saying, and put ‘manners’ on the words afterwards.

So, here’s my positive suggestion for you, Eisreacht1916 – Please continue your wonderful work and try to keep in mind that not everyone learns how to spell, use grammar correctly, or can pronounce words in the right way. And every single attempt, with or without fadas, is worthy of encouragement.

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Stephen  Sutton's avatar

You know the reason why I haven’t been writing about it, I’ve been flat out working on something else. I will have a nice Christmas present for all these election candidates in about an hours time should they choose to use it.

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